Meme time! And YES it's cracktastic!
Nov. 17th, 2010 11:11 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
serendipity8791First, write down the names of 12 characters (it's best when they're all from the same fandom). Then read and answer the questions.You can't look at the questions (or click on the cut) until you write down the 12 characters you're going to use.
I wanted to do it Ghostbusters, so this might wind up a bit slashy... as there are more boys than girls. Also, I'm using solely movie!verse, which includes the video game as movie!verse canon, as per Word of God (that's what Aykroyd said).
Since I had read the questions already, I decided to write 12 character names and draw them for the order... to make it even more cracktastic!
1. Louis Tully
2. Rookie (from the game)
3. Dana Barrett
4. Peter Venkman
5. Gozer
6. Raymond Stantz
7. Ivo Shandor (mentioned in the first film, the final boss of the game)
8. Vigo the Carpathian
9. Winston Zeddemore
10. Egon Spengler
11. Illysa Selwynn (from the game)
12. Janine Melnitz
Have you read a 6/11 fic? Do you want to?
Ray/Illysa, nope, but she's a character from the game, and there isn't much fic involving those. I do think he'd treat her better than Venkman does, so it could be kind of cute.
Do you think 4 is hot? How hot?
Peter Venkman? Hot? There are many words that come to mind when I think Venkman, for example: douchebag, sleazeball, player, would-be statutory rapist... but hot? No... (That is completely putting aside the fixation I have for Bill Murray's ass in the early 80s... boy, that was one fine backside... but Venkman is not hot to me, in any way.)
What would happen if 12 got 8 pregnant?
If Janine got Vigo pregnant? Woah... I think I may need some brain bleach, just from the suggestion.
Can you rec any fics about 9?
I have not read enough Winston fic, and none of them have stood out. However, I have read The Zeddemore Factor, which was Issue #0 of the dead-before-published 88MPH Ongoing series. That was one fine Winston-centric storyline. Winston does NOT get enough love, but I'm afraid to write fic where he's central to the story, because I'm afraid of mis-characterizing a black character.
Would 2 and 6 make a good couple?
Rookie and Ray. Um... Not in my head, because whenever I play the game, I always get so aggravated with Ray that I often wind up zapping his sorry ass. I think the Rookie in my head has no patience for the guy. Poor Ray.
5/9 or 5/10? Why?
Gozer/Winston or Gozer/Egon? Probably Gozer/Egon. Egon's all about experimenting on himself, including sleeping with the mood slime, which implies more than catching some Zs with a jar of the stuff next to his bed. He'd probably want to hit that, to see what it's like, to begin with.
What would happen if 7 walked in on 2 and 12 having sex?
Shandor walked in on Rookie and Janine doing the mattress mambo. Umm... he'd probably try to see if he couldn't charge some slime with that kind of energy... Then, he'd probably sacrifice the both of them to Gozer (or himself, depending on how far into transforming into a God he'd be at the time).
Make up a summary for a 3/10 fic
Dana/Egon. Seeing as Egon seems to have his eye on Dana at the beginning of Ghostbusters II, I would probably write a "What If" scenario where Venkman did not find out that Egon and Ray were about to investigate the situation with Oscar's pram taking a stroll on its own through the streets of New York City, and see where that led Egon and Dana. I don't think it would make for a long term relationship, but I think it could be cute. Especially since she makes him smile all dimple-y too!
Is there any such thing as 1/8 fluff?
Louis/Vigo. HAH! HAH-HAH! /Egon's laugh. I don't know about you, but the words Vigo and fluff do not exactly go together. Although Venkman might disagree. He does, after all, theorize that Vigo looks so angry because he misses his kitten.
Suggest a title for a 7/12 hurt/comfort fic
Shandor/Janine - This Time, It's Personal (Yes, that is a phrase Egon says in Extreme Ghostbusters, but the only thing I can think of for this pairing is that Shandor seduced Janine to try to get to the guys for revenge.)
What kind of plot device would you use if you wanted 4 to deflower 1?
Peter to deflower Louis? Possibly some sort of possession. Because, as if Peter would go for Louis, even if they were both gay. Totally not his type.
Does anyone on your friends list read 7 slash?
Shandor... who I would not be surprised if he swung both ways. *cough* But, as far as I know Shandor slash does not exist.
Does anyone on your friends list read 3 het?
Dana... pretty much anyone I know who reads GB fic.
Would anyone on your friends list write 2/4/5?
Rookie/Peter/Gozer - *dead from laughter* No idea. That would definitely be crack!fic.
What might 10 scream out at a moment of great passion?
Egon... Probably something scientific or completely inarticulate. I mean, he'd be bound to either be rational about it, or lose himself in the moment to the point of incoherence. Actually, I'm voting for "lose himself in the moment to the point of incoherence", so it would probably just be wordless noises.
If you wrote a songfic about 8, which song would you choose?
Vigo - Poor Unfortunate Souls (yes, from The Little Mermaid) I don't know, it just fits.
If you wrote a 1/6/12 fic, what would the warnings be?
Louis/Ray/Janine - Nerdy, but Affectionate Fluff with a side of Sarcasm.
What might be a good pick-up line for 2 to use on 10?
Rookie on Egon. "Wanna cross my stream?" (Okay, that was SO SO SO wrong on so many levels!)
When was the last time you read a fic about 5?
Gozer. Maybe about a month ago? Well, it wasn't so much about Gozer as it wound up with Peter and Louis, in Terror Dog form (don't ask), cuddling at Gozer's feet.
What's 6's super-secret kink?
Ray - Possibly implied in movie!canon, voyeurism. How else does he know about Egon doing naughty things with the mood slime? Aside from Egon telling him, that is.
Would 11 shag 9? Drunk or sober?
Illysa/Winston - Ummm, there's a thought! Again, I'm sure Winston would treat her better than Venkman. Probably sober, I mean, Winston's hot!
If 3 and 7 get together, who tops?
Dana/Shandor - *again with the dead from laughter at the idea* Likely Shandor.
"1 and 9 are in a happy relationship until 9 suddenly runs off with 4. 1, broken-hearted, has a hot one-night stand with 11 and a brief, unhappy affair with 12, then follows the wise advice of 5 and finds true love with 3." What title would you give this fic? Name three people on your friends list who might read it. Name one person who should write it.
Louis and Winston are in a happy relationship until Winston suddenly runs off with Peter. Louis, broken-hearted, has a hot one-night stand with Illysa, unhappy affair with Janine (ROFL! OMG! CANON BITES ME IN THE ASS!), then follows the wise advice of Gozer and finds true love with Dana (ROFL! OMG! His TWO love interests in the same thing!).
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Title: Did Someone Drink NyQuil Before Writing This?
No one, seriously, no one.
How would you feel if 7/8 was canon?
Shandor/Vigo - OH MY... Pass the brain bleach, please?
Who would make a better college professor: 6 or 11?
Ray or Illysa. Oh, wow... They're both knowledgeable in their fields... but I think Ray could make his subject more interesting than Illysa. I vote for Ray.
12 sends 8 on a mission. What is it and does it succeed?
Janine sends Vigo on a mission. Possibly to possess Egon to make him fall for her. No, because Egon is not susceptible to being possessed. Too strong-willed.
What would 5 most likely be arrested for?
Gozer - An androgynous chick dressed in bubble wrap... in some areas, Indecent Exposure.
If you had to walk home through a bad neighborhood late at night, would you feel safer in the company of 7 or 8?
Shandor or Vigo. Um... how about neither?
This was actually so much fun that I may do it again, drawing names again to get a different order, and see what comes up.
I wanted to do it Ghostbusters, so this might wind up a bit slashy... as there are more boys than girls. Also, I'm using solely movie!verse, which includes the video game as movie!verse canon, as per Word of God (that's what Aykroyd said).
Since I had read the questions already, I decided to write 12 character names and draw them for the order... to make it even more cracktastic!
1. Louis Tully
2. Rookie (from the game)
3. Dana Barrett
4. Peter Venkman
5. Gozer
6. Raymond Stantz
7. Ivo Shandor (mentioned in the first film, the final boss of the game)
8. Vigo the Carpathian
9. Winston Zeddemore
10. Egon Spengler
11. Illysa Selwynn (from the game)
12. Janine Melnitz
Have you read a 6/11 fic? Do you want to?
Ray/Illysa, nope, but she's a character from the game, and there isn't much fic involving those. I do think he'd treat her better than Venkman does, so it could be kind of cute.
Do you think 4 is hot? How hot?
Peter Venkman? Hot? There are many words that come to mind when I think Venkman, for example: douchebag, sleazeball, player, would-be statutory rapist... but hot? No... (That is completely putting aside the fixation I have for Bill Murray's ass in the early 80s... boy, that was one fine backside... but Venkman is not hot to me, in any way.)
What would happen if 12 got 8 pregnant?
If Janine got Vigo pregnant? Woah... I think I may need some brain bleach, just from the suggestion.
Can you rec any fics about 9?
I have not read enough Winston fic, and none of them have stood out. However, I have read The Zeddemore Factor, which was Issue #0 of the dead-before-published 88MPH Ongoing series. That was one fine Winston-centric storyline. Winston does NOT get enough love, but I'm afraid to write fic where he's central to the story, because I'm afraid of mis-characterizing a black character.
Would 2 and 6 make a good couple?
Rookie and Ray. Um... Not in my head, because whenever I play the game, I always get so aggravated with Ray that I often wind up zapping his sorry ass. I think the Rookie in my head has no patience for the guy. Poor Ray.
5/9 or 5/10? Why?
Gozer/Winston or Gozer/Egon? Probably Gozer/Egon. Egon's all about experimenting on himself, including sleeping with the mood slime, which implies more than catching some Zs with a jar of the stuff next to his bed. He'd probably want to hit that, to see what it's like, to begin with.
What would happen if 7 walked in on 2 and 12 having sex?
Shandor walked in on Rookie and Janine doing the mattress mambo. Umm... he'd probably try to see if he couldn't charge some slime with that kind of energy... Then, he'd probably sacrifice the both of them to Gozer (or himself, depending on how far into transforming into a God he'd be at the time).
Make up a summary for a 3/10 fic
Dana/Egon. Seeing as Egon seems to have his eye on Dana at the beginning of Ghostbusters II, I would probably write a "What If" scenario where Venkman did not find out that Egon and Ray were about to investigate the situation with Oscar's pram taking a stroll on its own through the streets of New York City, and see where that led Egon and Dana. I don't think it would make for a long term relationship, but I think it could be cute. Especially since she makes him smile all dimple-y too!
Is there any such thing as 1/8 fluff?
Louis/Vigo. HAH! HAH-HAH! /Egon's laugh. I don't know about you, but the words Vigo and fluff do not exactly go together. Although Venkman might disagree. He does, after all, theorize that Vigo looks so angry because he misses his kitten.
Suggest a title for a 7/12 hurt/comfort fic
Shandor/Janine - This Time, It's Personal (Yes, that is a phrase Egon says in Extreme Ghostbusters, but the only thing I can think of for this pairing is that Shandor seduced Janine to try to get to the guys for revenge.)
What kind of plot device would you use if you wanted 4 to deflower 1?
Peter to deflower Louis? Possibly some sort of possession. Because, as if Peter would go for Louis, even if they were both gay. Totally not his type.
Does anyone on your friends list read 7 slash?
Shandor... who I would not be surprised if he swung both ways. *cough* But, as far as I know Shandor slash does not exist.
Does anyone on your friends list read 3 het?
Dana... pretty much anyone I know who reads GB fic.
Would anyone on your friends list write 2/4/5?
Rookie/Peter/Gozer - *dead from laughter* No idea. That would definitely be crack!fic.
What might 10 scream out at a moment of great passion?
Egon... Probably something scientific or completely inarticulate. I mean, he'd be bound to either be rational about it, or lose himself in the moment to the point of incoherence. Actually, I'm voting for "lose himself in the moment to the point of incoherence", so it would probably just be wordless noises.
If you wrote a songfic about 8, which song would you choose?
Vigo - Poor Unfortunate Souls (yes, from The Little Mermaid) I don't know, it just fits.
If you wrote a 1/6/12 fic, what would the warnings be?
Louis/Ray/Janine - Nerdy, but Affectionate Fluff with a side of Sarcasm.
What might be a good pick-up line for 2 to use on 10?
Rookie on Egon. "Wanna cross my stream?" (Okay, that was SO SO SO wrong on so many levels!)
When was the last time you read a fic about 5?
Gozer. Maybe about a month ago? Well, it wasn't so much about Gozer as it wound up with Peter and Louis, in Terror Dog form (don't ask), cuddling at Gozer's feet.
What's 6's super-secret kink?
Ray - Possibly implied in movie!canon, voyeurism. How else does he know about Egon doing naughty things with the mood slime? Aside from Egon telling him, that is.
Would 11 shag 9? Drunk or sober?
Illysa/Winston - Ummm, there's a thought! Again, I'm sure Winston would treat her better than Venkman. Probably sober, I mean, Winston's hot!
If 3 and 7 get together, who tops?
Dana/Shandor - *again with the dead from laughter at the idea* Likely Shandor.
"1 and 9 are in a happy relationship until 9 suddenly runs off with 4. 1, broken-hearted, has a hot one-night stand with 11 and a brief, unhappy affair with 12, then follows the wise advice of 5 and finds true love with 3." What title would you give this fic? Name three people on your friends list who might read it. Name one person who should write it.
Louis and Winston are in a happy relationship until Winston suddenly runs off with Peter. Louis, broken-hearted, has a hot one-night stand with Illysa, unhappy affair with Janine (ROFL! OMG! CANON BITES ME IN THE ASS!), then follows the wise advice of Gozer and finds true love with Dana (ROFL! OMG! His TWO love interests in the same thing!).
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Title: Did Someone Drink NyQuil Before Writing This?
No one, seriously, no one.
How would you feel if 7/8 was canon?
Shandor/Vigo - OH MY... Pass the brain bleach, please?
Who would make a better college professor: 6 or 11?
Ray or Illysa. Oh, wow... They're both knowledgeable in their fields... but I think Ray could make his subject more interesting than Illysa. I vote for Ray.
12 sends 8 on a mission. What is it and does it succeed?
Janine sends Vigo on a mission. Possibly to possess Egon to make him fall for her. No, because Egon is not susceptible to being possessed. Too strong-willed.
What would 5 most likely be arrested for?
Gozer - An androgynous chick dressed in bubble wrap... in some areas, Indecent Exposure.
If you had to walk home through a bad neighborhood late at night, would you feel safer in the company of 7 or 8?
Shandor or Vigo. Um... how about neither?
This was actually so much fun that I may do it again, drawing names again to get a different order, and see what comes up.
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Date: 2010-11-18 10:15 am (UTC)I think if Vigo got pregnant, that would serve a kind of poetic justice.
I think you should write Winston fic. White guilt is keeping a lot of great non-white characters invisible in fanfic. If you're worried about the representation, you can have it beta'd by someone who will keep that in mind. I know worry kind of stops the creative flow, but, I don't know, write without thinking and then think during re-read, maybe? That's what I do. Mostly I'm too wrapped up in the character to pay much attention to race etc and often post without ever even considering it, but sometimes I remember to read back what I wrote critically. I haven't had any complaints so far, but if I did I'd surely take them seriously.
Now I want Louis/Vigo fluff. Maybe if Vigo had amnesia or was reborn as someone nice. Pr got personality surgery.
Peter/Louis - alcohol poisoning?
A potential Egon sex cry: "Next time I must remember to attach electrodes to my brain and maybe run a diagnostic on changes in my chemical production during orgasm!"
I'm not sure "nerdy" etc require warning for... but I know a lot of people use the warning tag as a "randomly also contains these things" tag.
I knew the whole thing would wind up sounding like crack!fic, LOL!
Date: 2010-11-18 02:13 pm (UTC)I would love, love, love to write Winston. And it's true, white guilt makes us forget that, basically, aside from certain obvious cultural things, everyone has similar motivations in life. Most of the cultural stuff could be put aside, technically, in something like Ghostbusters, where culture and race barely matter aside from a mention in passing (from the novel: Ray *addressing Winston*: You're black! Winston: I know!, with then Ray explaining it's a great thing because certain entities respond better to people with dark skin; or Janine, explaining to a client to not upset the ghost while waiting for their appointed visit, thinks it's somewhat silly that she is becoming something of an overprotective Jewish mother to NYC's paranormal population). As a side note, I'm starting to realize how obvious it is that Winston's part was originally written for Eddie Murphy. They did make changes to the character, as well as took away a lot of his screen time, but Ernie Hudson pulled it off wonderfully. There really isn't enough Winston. ♥
Hahaha, as much as I'd like to fulfill that desire, I am not going to write some Louis/Vigo fluff. Even if Vigo had amnesia or was reincarnated as someone nice. Although I can't think of Louis without thinking fluff or disaster, or both!
Peter would have to be so drunk that he'd mistake Louis for an attractive female.
You laugh, but Egon, in his teens, had given a librarian a turn when he asked for a book about a theory on how to use sex as a source of energy (electrical, I assume). That's also from the novel.
I couldn't think of anything else, for warnings.
Re: I knew the whole thing would wind up sounding like crack!fic, LOL!
Date: 2010-11-18 02:22 pm (UTC)I'll forgive you for not writing Vigo/Louis if you write me some Winston fic. :D
I think Egon is fantastic and my suggestion for his sex cry was totally serious. Although I guess he'd be more likely say that during the afterglow snuggling bit.
Re: I knew the whole thing would wind up sounding like crack!fic, LOL!
Date: 2010-11-18 03:14 pm (UTC)It's funny, because whenever I do try to write Winston, he comes out as the type who thinks a lot, and thinks deep thoughts. And that is also a bit how Andrew Dabb wrote him for The Zeddemore Factor (Issue #0 of the dead-before-published 88MPH Ghostbusters series), which tickled me.
I'm pretty sure I've seen a piece of cartoon-based fan art where Egon had both himself and Janine hooked up to some devices, and saying something along the lines of: "Last night we did it your way, tonight we do it my way." in a speech bubble. I just don't remember where I saw it, haha. Seeing as Egon does say he's "terrified beyond rational thought" upon seeing Stay Puft, he would be the type to say something like that, upon orgasm, but I like the idea of this usually abnormally rational and calculated man to lose control to the point of not being able to string two thoughts together, at that moment. That would be kind of hot, actually, and an indication of exactly how intense it is for him.
Re: I knew the whole thing would wind up sounding like crack!fic, LOL!
Date: 2010-11-18 02:25 pm (UTC)I count Ray as a hybrid nerd-jock. A rare breed!
Re: I knew the whole thing would wind up sounding like crack!fic, LOL!
Date: 2010-11-18 03:16 pm (UTC)And I really want to blame Legion for Ray being a nerd-jock hybrid. Hahaha, buff Ray. Still funny.
Re: I knew the whole thing would wind up sounding like crack!fic, LOL!
Date: 2010-11-18 05:52 pm (UTC)I thought about this some more and maybe it's not so much that Ray's either a nerd-jock or a pure nerd so much as he's a grown up version of the "boy hero" archetype. You know - clear-browed, responsible, enthusiastic, focusing on the mission at hand, and basically good-hearted.
Re: I knew the whole thing would wind up sounding like crack!fic, LOL!
Date: 2010-11-18 06:39 pm (UTC)There is some slashy "older!Mike develops an obsession for younger!Ray, and not just for friendship" subtext, which gets a lot more disturbing when you know how it evolves and eventually ends...
Re: I knew the whole thing would wind up sounding like crack!fic, LOL!
Date: 2010-11-19 07:56 am (UTC)I have to say I found the "evil nerd" stereotype of Louis and Mike in the comic a bit disappointing. Evil nerds can totally rule, like Syndrome in The Incredibles or, well, Severus Snape, but it smacked a bit like jock jealousy of the success of the brain. But I may be too invested in high school stereotypes and it's all a matter of interpretation. I do love that Ray is both sweet, capable, good-hearted, enthusiastic, and a nerd. <3 And making friends with weirdos like it's no big deal. I wonder what his high school years were like?
Re: I knew the whole thing would wind up sounding like crack!fic, LOL!
Date: 2010-11-19 01:46 pm (UTC)It was supposed to be revealed in the ongoing series that Louis was actually still possessed by Vinz Clortho, which is why he was still so actively going after Dana (probably hoping that she was still under Zuul's influence), but the real Louis was shining through a lot more than after his initial possession. I think Moranis' Louis is kind of sweet, especially in GBII once things get started with Janine. Louis was originally intended to be played by John Candy, and was supposed to be creepier and sleazier with women. I liked the backstory of how Mike went crazy because, suddenly, he could communicate with ghosts. Not that he was fully sane to begin with, seemed to be a bit obsessive about things. I do see a lot of Gollum in Mike and would not be surprised if the success of LotR (Legion was probably written sometime in 2003, since the comic came out, with delays, in 2004) had had an influence on the direction the character went.
As for "success of the brain" aside from his being an accountant, Louis isn't really all that brainy. He made the right move telling his story to the right people, who are probably making even more money off it than he's making. Since Venkman got the girl (Dana), I think he shouldn't obsess over Louis and his success with women so much. But that's Peter "The Womanizer" Venkman, you know? The other three don't give a damn, only he does.
Re: I knew the whole thing would wind up sounding like crack!fic, LOL!
Date: 2010-11-19 02:00 pm (UTC)I do remember thinking in the original film that he should learn to read body language. Venkman's worse, but it must not be fun being Dana, not even able to walk across the hall without being mooned after.
Aw, I'm glad he wasn't made sleazier, though. Rick Moranis also has a kind of sweetness, it's why I like him. I wonder if there was some conflating with LSH's Seymour in the characterization after he was cast?
Re: I knew the whole thing would wind up sounding like crack!fic, LOL!
Date: 2010-11-19 02:33 pm (UTC)At least, Dana seems to like Venkman, at least, until their break up between the two films. Oh yeah, and she does take him back in the second film. And rumour has it that we'll find out in GBIII that baby Oscar actually is Venkman's kid, and that she was already pregnant when she got married, which doesn't make sense from a chronology point of view. It's too much "Superman Returns" for my tastes.
I think there was a scene in the original script, from when the character was written for John Candy, where he accidentally-on-purpose dumped a plate of spaghetti on a woman, just so he could "help" her wipe it down. I'm so glad that was cut out, haha. LSH was released two years after GB, so I would not be surprised if Louis influenced Seymour, actually.
Re: I knew the whole thing would wind up sounding like crack!fic, LOL!
Date: 2010-11-19 05:41 pm (UTC)That whole "it's his baby after all" thing is a bit lame and overused and it's connected to the surprisingly commonplace idea in films that a truly pure, desirable and true woman that a man wants to marry will not breed with any other men. Which is stupid, and doensn't reflect real life or the sorts of families real people have. If Dana and Venkman are together, I'd love to see him as an adoptive step-father to Oscar - that's every bit as much fatherhood.
I didn't realize Ghostbusters predates Little Shop of Horrors! I somehow had them pegged in the other order, maybe because Murray had such a small role I assumed he wasn't that famous yet, or then I just got that impression from the setting of the film.
Re: I knew the whole thing would wind up sounding like crack!fic, LOL!
Date: 2010-11-19 06:20 pm (UTC)As a side note, remember how Egon can sometimes seem like he's completely disinterested in women and sex? Watch the scene where they walk into the hotel's lobby carefully. When the woman in the fur coat crosses their path, all three of them give her an appreciative look. Actually, they all pause to watch her walk by. Egon even has one of those rare half-smiles on his face. Similar to the one that appears on his face when he and Janine hug, later in the film.
It is stupid, and he would be such a good step-dad to Oscar, I loved the scenes he had with the baby, at any rate. For a womanizing bachelor (okay, so, he's not that bad in the second film), he seems to have a great touch with children. But then, Bill Murray does have 6 kids! And, since he would have been in Oscar's life since he was an infant, there would be no question who Oscar would call "Dad", especially since it's implied that Oscar's biological father is non-present. Maybe that's what got leaked out, bits of dialogue where Oscar calls him "Dad", and people assumed wrong. If I were to write a fic where Venkman and Dana were together and raising him together, I'd be inclined to have Oscar call him "Dad" to begin with.
Yes, Ghostbusters predates Little Shop of Horrors by roughly two years! :D And Moranis was mostly typecast as a geek because that's what he looks like. Honey, I Shrunk the Kids is no exception.
Re: I knew the whole thing would wind up sounding like crack!fic, LOL!
Date: 2010-11-19 06:32 pm (UTC)I really hope you're right and he's written as not the biological father, but the Dad. It just would seem more relatable to me, even though my dad was more of the once-a-month-parent/more-like-an-uncle kind.
Can't deny Moranis fits the physical stereotype of a geek to a tee. He is more adorable somehow than others with stereotypically geeky builds, though, and I can't really put my finger on why. He just is.